Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums
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Welcome to the Museums WikiProject! A chunk of this text has been stolen borrowed under GFDL ;) from other Wiki Projects under the idea that they're a lot more familiar with the process than I am, which isn't hard!
- Goals
- Improve Wikipedia's coverage of museums.
- Improve quality of existing articles
- Expand smaller museums in non-English dominant countries where articles are little more than a sentence.
- Create guidelines for articles about museums.
- Scope
- The project covers all articles about museums in a wide range of disciplines and locations throughout the world. By member consensus, it does not include aquaria, herbaria, zoos and other non-museum 'collections' because these are well-covered in other projects.
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[edit] Members
- DiverScout (talk · contribs) (volunteer curator for small museum in UK, will concentrate on East Anglian, rail and WW2 content]])
- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk)
- John Carter (talk) 21:10, 18 March 2008 (UTC) - This is the first project I was ever told I was myself "within the scope of". I know I'm getting on in years, but still. :)
- LanceBarber (talk) 04:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- MBK004 (talk · contribs) - military/ships
- Gimme danger (talk · contribs) - science museums and Chicago-area museums
- LukeTheSpook (talk) - Going to be working on rating articles...
- Minnaert (talk) 04:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC) - I mess around with museum articles... mainly in california
- Jpbowen (talk · contribs) – interested in museums internationally and especially online
- Bluegoblin7 (talk · contribs) - interested in most British Museums, especially Transport ones!
- Aqwis (talk · contribs) - interested in science museums and Norwegian museums in general
- Lquilter (talk · contribs) - science museums, categorizing
- RogoPD - public art collections in Europe
- Daniel Case (talk · contribs) - I have done many historic house museums here in the Hudson Valley as a by-product of doing articles for the U.S. National Register of Historic Places project, so it's really a formality. Good that we have this project. Daniel Case (talk) 20:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- Dmadeo (talk · contribs) - I've done a lot of work on List of National Historic Landmarks in New York City, many of which are historic house museums, but also are the big boys such as the Met, etc.
- Musebrarian (talk · contribs) - history, industry and technology, Museum Informatics, Museology
- Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk · contribs) -Count me in, I won't be actively concentrating on museums but will be creating some articles on museums in places in the developing world in coordination with my other work, particularly Africa and Asia and countries of Central Europe.
- Appletrees (talk · contribs) - Mostly working on museums in South Korea, but North Korea seems to have interesting museums as well.
- Doncram (talk · contribs) - Ship museums, historic house museums, other historic site museums. Have been participating, may as well join. :) doncram (talk) 17:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- BusterD (talk · contribs) - Another NYC-area museum member with a love for science museums and historical societies. BusterD (talk) 12:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Basketball110 (talk · contribs) - I can get info and pictures from all the museums in Romania.
- LordAmeth (talk · contribs) - Focusing on museums, historical sites, etc in Japan.
- Thomas Paine1776 (talk · contribs)
- Woland37 (talk · contribs) interested in museum stuff including organizations and whatnot
- Ridenm (talk · contribs) working on National Atomic Museum page
- MRacer (talk · contribs) - former museum volunteer and fine artist with an interest in art, world history and local history subjects as they relate here.
- nrswanson (talk · contribs) - Frequent world traveler, classical musician, and museum lover.
- nicg1883 (talk · contribs) – interested in museum and have created an article on the Holy Jesus Hospital Museum. English.
- Jordan Timothy James Busson (talk · contribs) I'll help out. --Jordan Contribs 17:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- WiltshireHeritage (talk · contribs) - museum curator
- Ralphwiggam75 (talk · contribs) - art historian
- Fact-of-the-matter (talk · contribs) - Museum administrator
- jonallen1966 (talk · contribs) - I'm going to have a go at the Tokyo Museums
- Editorofthewiki (talk · contribs) - I'll help out here and there. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 20:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · contribs)
- Danwalk (talk · contribs) - Academic in the humanities primarily interested in art museums. Areas of particular interest are Spain and Massachusetts, USA.
- Thaliapap (talk · contribs) - Architect (M. Arch.) with special interest in museums, focusing in Greek Museums.
- Storye_book (talk · contribs) - I have no great expertise, but have been contributing in a small way to Leeds City Museum page, and have created several Yorkshire museum pages. I'm happy to take photographs where permitted.--Storye book (talk) 15:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ssbautista (talk · contribs) - PhD student in Communication/Museum Studies studying digital media. Former art curator/critic/nonprofit administrator.
[edit] Languages Spoken
If you're able to read or write in a language other than English in order to help expand articles in countries where English isn't primary, please leave your name here:
- Basketball110 (talk · contribs) - I can read and sort-of-write in Romanian. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 23:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- LordAmeth (talk · contribs) - I would be happy to read anything in Spanish or Japanese to double-check facts or help with expansion.
- Lazulilasher (talk · contribs): French (fluent, second language) Lazulilasher (talk) 20:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- Fact-of-the-matter (talk · contribs) - I can read Spanish and could do research. I don't trust my Spanish grammar well enough to write articles in Spanish, but I can do research and review Spanish articles. I can also read french at a less than fluent level of comprehension. I know basic vocabulary and grammar in French but I am much better with Spanish.
- Danwalk (talk · contribs) - Native English speaker with near-native fluency in Spanish.
- Thaliapap (talk · contribs) - Native Greek speaker.
- Goodness Shamrock (talk · contribs) - A native Dutch speaker; can also read German.
[edit] To Do
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums/Requested Articles: these articles have been requested, but not yet written
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums/Requests for Expansion: these stubs have been created, but they could do with some expansion
[edit] Article Alerts
- Articles for deletion
- 9 Jul 2009 – Museum at Bethel Woods (talk) was kept; see discussion.
- Good article reassessment
- 8 Jul 2009 – Mark Twain House (talk) is nominated for an individual reassessment by Nehrams2020; see discussion.
- Today's featured article
- 2 Jul 2009 – Bruce Castle (talk) was featured on the main page.
- Did you know
- 6 Jul 2009 – A fact from Prewitt-Allen Archaeological Museum (talk) appeared on the main page.
- 4 Jul 2009 – A fact from Nantucket Whaling Museum (talk) appeared on the main page.
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- 8 July 2009 – A new database dump is available. The cleanup listings from WolterBot should be updated.
- 29 June 2009 – A compilation of Academic Journal has been generated from the |journal= parameter found in citation templates, identifying the 500 most cited journals, and 500 most cited journals without articles.
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[edit] Deletion Discussions
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[edit] Museums and libraries AfDs
[edit] InterAccess
Non-notable little Toronto art gallery. Fails WP:N. Article also has no references - thus fail WP:V. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 02:28, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- also, the article has a large amount of spammy material that was added by a user account named "Interaccess". The original article was much more stubby. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 02:39, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. —freshacconci talktalk 03:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Keep Although the article as it stands is poor and unsourced, this in itself is not a reason for deletion. As an organization, InterAccess is notable, and hardly a "little" art gallery (I don't understand the point of that kind of wording in a deletion nomination). InterAccess is actually a pretty important art centre in the field of electronic art and has been around for 25 years. Google books and google scholar show notability. I'll try to give it some time to properly source this. I've removed some PR language myself in the past and this could use a good thorough editing, but I think notability is easily shown here. freshacconci talktalk 04:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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- I'll be happy to withdraw my nom if the article's facts get sourced per WP:RS and notability gets demonstrated. But I browsed through the Google Scholar results, and most seem either unrelated or only mention InterAccess in passing, as a place where an exhibition was made. Also, I look forward in this AfD to learn how many, and what kind of, scholarly articles are needed to demonstrate notability: J Mann's article in Leonardo might be about Interaccess in more than passing (I haven't read it yet, dunno if my Uni library provides access to that journal), but does that count as significant scholarly attention? I'll leave it up to others to decide. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 14:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- As much as I'm aware of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, I do feel the need to point to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Open_House_Arts_Collective, an article I !voted to delete. InterAccess, with 25 years and an important place in the history of electronic arts certainly has as much business being here as a small local arts collective in London, Ontario. If we cannot accept academic and other print sources which are a primarily about the exhibition rather than the exhibition space, we'd pretty much need to go through Wikipedia deleting gallery pages, as art galleries tend to be, in essence, a space for exhibiting and in most cases there would be very little written about a gallery that is not primarily about a given show. In any case, as an artist-run centre (as opposed to a commercial art gallery), InterAccess' programming is an important aspect of the central mission of the organization. In other words, the programming (and the associated press and academic articles) are very much about the organization. I feel there is enough to satisfy notability, and as I've said, I'll be working on this when I get some spare time, rewriting and adding sources. freshacconci talktalk 12:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- Food for thought: if all sources only mention InterAccess as a place where an artist exhibited, that would be all that could be written about the place per WP:V. Also, if InterAccess is only mentioned as a place where an artist's works are exhibited, what then is making it notable? E.g., notability is not inherited, so the artist's exhibition isn't contributing to notability of the gallery. It'd be nice to just see a couple articles about the gallery itself used for sources - if it's as you say, there should be some articles demonstrating notability. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 13:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- An artist's exhibition isn't inherited notability for the gallery, as it is the prime function of the gallery. It is the gallery's exhibition. There are numerous galleries, artists and shows, most of whom do not get much coverage. If a gallery's shows recurrently get written about, that is a testament to the importance of the gallery. The cumulative account of shows is the gallery's history. Even well-known galleries do not get much coverage directed specifically at them in isolation: it usually occurs in the context of a show. Ty 01:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Galleries which do not get much coverage fail WP:V, as the article content is supposed to be sourced from this coverage. If a gallery only receives coverage for its exhibitions, then one has to wonder what's passing WP:N - the gallery, or the artists exhibiting at it? AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 20:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- An artist's exhibition isn't inherited notability for the gallery, as it is the prime function of the gallery. It is the gallery's exhibition. There are numerous galleries, artists and shows, most of whom do not get much coverage. If a gallery's shows recurrently get written about, that is a testament to the importance of the gallery. The cumulative account of shows is the gallery's history. Even well-known galleries do not get much coverage directed specifically at them in isolation: it usually occurs in the context of a show. Ty 01:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Food for thought: if all sources only mention InterAccess as a place where an artist exhibited, that would be all that could be written about the place per WP:V. Also, if InterAccess is only mentioned as a place where an artist's works are exhibited, what then is making it notable? E.g., notability is not inherited, so the artist's exhibition isn't contributing to notability of the gallery. It'd be nice to just see a couple articles about the gallery itself used for sources - if it's as you say, there should be some articles demonstrating notability. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 13:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- As much as I'm aware of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, I do feel the need to point to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Open_House_Arts_Collective, an article I !voted to delete. InterAccess, with 25 years and an important place in the history of electronic arts certainly has as much business being here as a small local arts collective in London, Ontario. If we cannot accept academic and other print sources which are a primarily about the exhibition rather than the exhibition space, we'd pretty much need to go through Wikipedia deleting gallery pages, as art galleries tend to be, in essence, a space for exhibiting and in most cases there would be very little written about a gallery that is not primarily about a given show. In any case, as an artist-run centre (as opposed to a commercial art gallery), InterAccess' programming is an important aspect of the central mission of the organization. In other words, the programming (and the associated press and academic articles) are very much about the organization. I feel there is enough to satisfy notability, and as I've said, I'll be working on this when I get some spare time, rewriting and adding sources. freshacconci talktalk 12:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'll be happy to withdraw my nom if the article's facts get sourced per WP:RS and notability gets demonstrated. But I browsed through the Google Scholar results, and most seem either unrelated or only mention InterAccess in passing, as a place where an exhibition was made. Also, I look forward in this AfD to learn how many, and what kind of, scholarly articles are needed to demonstrate notability: J Mann's article in Leonardo might be about Interaccess in more than passing (I haven't read it yet, dunno if my Uni library provides access to that journal), but does that count as significant scholarly attention? I'll leave it up to others to decide. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 14:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Tyrenius basically said what I was trying to say above, although much more clearly. In the end the notability of the exhibitions and the notability of the gallery are the same thing. I've expanded the article somewhat, added some sources, removed some more of the more promotional language and removed things that are difficult to substantiate. I think what's left shows notability. This could be expanded further, but it will take someone with a bit more knowledge of electronic arts than I have. But as it stands, I'm confident that this is salvageable. freshacconci talktalk 16:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
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- It may be salvageable, I agree. My biggest concern is the non-independence of the sources that came up in the google search, as I said above. I still should see if that Mann article mentions InterAccess more than just in passing, as that might be an independent source. I still have a problem with sources associated with the artists who exhibit at the gallery, as that has the great potential to give us a walled garden - the Schilling article, for example, is written by a friend of the curator of the gallery! Art scenes can be rather consanguinous, and in Canada they have the added benefit of government grants to support their self-promotion. That's why Wikipedia requires independent sources - if we didn't we may as well close up shop and fold the site into Facebook. :-) I'll leave my vote as is, and leave it up to other editors to hash out whether this is notable or not. I think this AfD is going to get arelist anyway, as really there haven't been enough contributions yet. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 20:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes the Canadian art community is small, and this of course actually means that writers will be writing about artists they know. But Baudelaire was buds with Manet, so this is nothing new. And given the cultural population in Canada, this is unavoidable (there would basically be no way to get any coverage otherwise). And likewise, I'm not certain what government funding has to do with anything. Europeans fund art much more generously than Canada, so the idea that government support somehow taints the work or gives it an unfair advantage is specious. The Schilling article, regardless of what the relationships may be, was used simply to verify information on the 25th anniversary exhibition. I don't believe any actual assessment of the work was gleaned from the review for this article. In any case, the publication Parachute is in no way affiliated with InterAccess and is entirely independent and third-party. The Mann article is in fact about InterAccess specifically. An online version is not available outside of academic databases. I'd be happy to send a PDF to anyone who's interested. freshacconci talktalk 21:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- And per Tyrenius above, there seem to be many reviews and articles on the exhibitions of InterAccess published in independent sources (magazines and major newspapers). In order to include these, a section on exhibitions would need to be added (although a "further reading" section could be used for article not specifically referred to, although I personally prefer to use those sparingly). freshacconci talktalk 22:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes the Canadian art community is small, and this of course actually means that writers will be writing about artists they know. But Baudelaire was buds with Manet, so this is nothing new. And given the cultural population in Canada, this is unavoidable (there would basically be no way to get any coverage otherwise). And likewise, I'm not certain what government funding has to do with anything. Europeans fund art much more generously than Canada, so the idea that government support somehow taints the work or gives it an unfair advantage is specious. The Schilling article, regardless of what the relationships may be, was used simply to verify information on the 25th anniversary exhibition. I don't believe any actual assessment of the work was gleaned from the review for this article. In any case, the publication Parachute is in no way affiliated with InterAccess and is entirely independent and third-party. The Mann article is in fact about InterAccess specifically. An online version is not available outside of academic databases. I'd be happy to send a PDF to anyone who's interested. freshacconci talktalk 21:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- It may be salvageable, I agree. My biggest concern is the non-independence of the sources that came up in the google search, as I said above. I still should see if that Mann article mentions InterAccess more than just in passing, as that might be an independent source. I still have a problem with sources associated with the artists who exhibit at the gallery, as that has the great potential to give us a walled garden - the Schilling article, for example, is written by a friend of the curator of the gallery! Art scenes can be rather consanguinous, and in Canada they have the added benefit of government grants to support their self-promotion. That's why Wikipedia requires independent sources - if we didn't we may as well close up shop and fold the site into Facebook. :-) I'll leave my vote as is, and leave it up to other editors to hash out whether this is notable or not. I think this AfD is going to get arelist anyway, as really there haven't been enough contributions yet. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 20:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Folsom Public Library
3rd nom, last closed as withdrawn by nom for procedural reasons. However, consensus seemed clear-ish for a merge, which is what I'm advocating here. However don't want to implement unilaterally following 2 AfDs. I don't think there's independent notability as there's no evidence this is anything but a run-of-the-mill library, which lacks inherent notability. Thoughts? StarM 01:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. -- StarM 01:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. -- StarM 01:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Question- If you wanted a merge, why are we here? Why not just open up a merge discussion? Umbralcorax (talk) 02:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Answer because it's been here three times and discussed by people who aren't necessarily watching the article. I think it's only fair to get general input (such as those who have !voted before) rather than the small subset of those who watch the talk or requested merges. StarM 12:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Merge as usual--I think with Sacramento Public Library, with which it is affiliated. Folsom is a small city of 70,000, and public libraries in such places are usually not notable. DGG (talk) 15:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | Talk 00:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- Merge per DGG. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Museums and libraries Proposed Deletions
[edit] Assessment
Below is a bot generated table of the assessment process and current status of WikiProject Museums supported articles. The stats are generated automatically every 2-3 days, but they can be updated manually by entering Museums (and replacing Foobar) into the Category box here.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums/Assessment for the project assessment details and log of museums project tags.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums/progress to view the historical monthly totals.
[edit] Current status
| Museums articles |
Importance | ||||||
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| Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
| Quality | |||||||
| 1 | 1 | 8 | 10 | ||||
| 2 | 1 | 6 | 16 | 3 | 28 | ||
| B | 6 | 2 | 22 | 35 | 18 | 83 | |
| C | 13 | 7 | 8 | 10 | 6 | 44 | |
| Start | 13 | 21 | 111 | 558 | 188 | 891 | |
| Stub | 2 | 13 | 103 | 1607 | 1623 | 3348 | |
| List | 9 | 12 | 25 | 21 | 67 | ||
| Assessed | 36 | 54 | 263 | 2259 | 1859 | 4471 | |
| Unassessed | 3 | 395 | 398 | ||||
| Total | 36 | 54 | 263 | 2262 | 2254 | 4869 | |
[edit] Recognized Content
[edit] Featured content
Belton House
Bruce Castle
Manzanar
New Orleans Mint
Palazzo Pitti
USS Constitution
USS Missouri (BB-63)
West Wycombe Park
[edit] Candidates
[edit] Good Content
[edit] Candidates
[edit] DYK
[edit] Categories
BCBot is in the process of tagging all the articles in the master category list with the project template. If you're aware of newly added categories, or a category that you feel was missed, please add it here rather than to that master list so we can organize a mass-tagging if needed. I have not yet asked a bot to 'watch' any categories and add newly created articles to the project, but I know there are some that do that.
[edit] Articles to Create
Depending on how you look at it, we're (un)lucky to have a significant body of articles that need creating. Looking at the predominantly redlinks here:
- List of museums International with multiple red links, good place to start
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Museums/Requested Articles: Requested articles
- Include the Museum infobox when creating or editing a museum articles
[edit] Templates and Userbox
- {{WikiProject Museums}}:
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- Template:Infobox Museum can be used to summarise articles about museums
[edit] Stub Templates
- {{museum-stub}}
- {{US-museum-stub}}
- {{Canada-museum-stub}}
- {{Mexico-museum-stub}}
- {{Europe-museum-stub}}
- {{Austria-museum-stub}}
- {{Denmark-museum-stub}}
- {{France-museum-stub}}
- {{Germany-museum-stub}}
- {{Greece-museum-stub}}
- {{Italy-museum-stub}}
- {{Norway-museum-stub}}
- {{Poland-museum-stub}}
- {{Sweden-museum-stub}}
- {{Switzerland-museum-stub}}
- {{UK-museum-stub}}
- {{India-museum-stub}}
- {{Korea-museum-stub}}
- {{PRChina-museum-stub}}
- {{Taiwan-museum-stub}}
- {{Vietnam-museum-stub}}
- {{Australia-museum-stub}}
- {{NewZealand-museum-stub}}
- {{Africa-museum-stub}}
[edit] Userbox
- {{User Museums project}}:
| User is a member of the Museums WikiProject - You can help! |
[edit] Resources
Some resources which may be useful for those writing articles about museums:
- 24 Hour museum - information on many UK museums
- Visitor statistics for UK attractions
- Monthly museum & gallery visits figures from the UK's Department for Culture, Media and Sport
- Geograph (for photos in the UK) is really good & all CC licensed so can be used - there is even a simple template {{subst:geograph | image-number | author}} for adding them on upload which marks them for transfer to commons.
[edit] Related projects
- Architecture
- History
- History of Science
- Military History
- National Register of Historic Places
- Visual arts
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