Talk:Abitur
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Should it really be described as a "high school degree"? In the usage I've heard it's "high school diploma," with degrees being reserved for junior-college level and above. But has anyone a counterexample? --Daniel C. Boyer 14:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the many changes I made, but the article was a few decades out of date --Kajaktiger 20:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] High school equivilent?
Should it really be described as a "high school degree"? In the usage I've heard it's "high school diploma," with degrees being reserved for junior-college level and above. But has anyone a counterexample? --Daniel C. Boyer 14:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the many changes I made, but the article was a few decades out of date --Kajaktiger 20:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I disagree that it be compared to an associates, Associates are 2 year degree, that once you finish allows you to get a BA in 2 years... not a 1 year degree that allows BA in 3 years. An AS is just the first half of a BA.
Something close to Abitur doesn't exist in the US, so don't bother trying to compare it to High school diploma, Associates Degree, SAT, w/e, instead explain what Abitur. --Roxie Yasoxiez (talk) 15:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- You are correct in telling us that the Abitur is not as high an achievement as an associate's degree. However, the point of the original text was, I think, that the Abitur is higher in academic level as the US high school diploma. So, we need not refer to the associate's degree but to the IB and AP tests, which are somewhat similar. Some kind of comparison is helpful to the reader, although it remains inexact, by necessity. --MPorciusCato (talk) 16:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] UCAS
As this is the English Wiki, it would be appropriate for the article on the Abi to mention how it is integrated into the British UCAS tariff system. When German kids apply for British universities, how do they rate? This information is not readily available on the web, it's not on the UCAS website, for example, and it would be a great service if someone can provide it here. --Doric Loon 12:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] wrong
"It is the only school leaving certificate in all states of Germany that allows the graduate (or Abiturient) to commence studies at the university." this sentence is wrong. Its the only direct way, but there are other ways via additional schools. FreddyE 10:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Could a ...
Could a Fluent english speaker who is fimilear with German education. I will put a expert need on this page in about a week.
[edit] Reaali in Finland?
Reaali in which examinees take between one and four exams, and are only allowed to answer questions from a single subject per exam. These subjects have to be chosen by the examinee well in advance prior to the exam.
Has this changed or is my memory very hazy on this subject? I seem to remember having all the subjects available to me. There was no need to choose a subject a priori to the exam; we were provided with all the "reaali" questions at once, and chose whatever we felt most comfortable with.
Of course this was before Eximia Cum Laude Approbatur was introduced and the whole system changed, so I could very well just be an old... flatulence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.217.202 (talk) 14:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- The structure of the reaali was changed a couple of years ago. The cited section of the article is correct. Victor Chmara 23:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Acctualy you can only take two reaali-exams each spring and fall. You could do 6 exams in 3 different parts before you finished matriculation examination. Also you can do further exams after you have finnished your matriculation examination. I will change it to one or two exams as it is more exact if you do examination in one go. --Contributions/82.203.226.37 (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Strong bladders in Finland?
Each exam takes six hours. - is this right? Or is each paper taken in two three hour stints? Albatross2147 (talk) 11:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- It is taken in a single six hour session. However, using toilet is possible. In a typical set-up, there are four teachers supervising the exam hall (one on each side). If the student wishes to go to bathroom, he raises his hand, and is guided by one of the teachers to bathroom. There are at least two closets reserved for sole use of the examinees (and closed to other pupils). The closet used in each case is chosen randomly by the teacher when the examinee is guided to the bathroom, so as to prevent leaving messages. In addition, the students are allowed to bring food and drink to the exam hall. The food must be in transparent packaging, and the bottles are to have no etiquetts, so as to prevent writing on them. --MPorciusCato (talk) 12:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Abitur after twelve years
I have suggested a merger of Abitur after twelve years with this article. The topic seems there to be of only minor importance to people outside of German-speaking countries and could well be shortened and included in the Germany section of this article instead. --Axt (talk) 13:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Your proposition is correct and easily implementable. --MPorciusCato (talk) 15:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
