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I've removed a few paragraphs added in this edit - they seem like someone's personal views to me. Perhaps some of the points can be re-added in, but it needs a lot more thought. sjorford (talk) 11:31, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Category? 2 Confusion!?!? 3 .eu Usage - Real Statistics 4 MERGE from .eu.int 5 Usage outside the EU 6 EU unfairly singling out Dotster

[edit] Category?

Does anyone know if Wikipedia maintains a catgeory of websites by TLD, or a list of same? I'm keeping my eye on a few .eu articles, and thought it might make sense to toss in some kind of category. samwaltz 00:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Well there are is a large number of websites (tens of millions) and the nearest thing to a categorisation of the web is Dmoz's architecture. Even on .eu, the number of active websites is quite low. (I've forensically reconstructed most (75%+) of .eu domains and approximately 25% of the active websites point to just 15 IPs - most of them are "coming soon" parking IPs and the others are domain warehousing operations.) A lot of the web is like this so one of the biggest single categories would be "parking/coming soon" pages. In terms of active domains, based on work in did in mapping every website in com/net/org/biz/info/ie a while ago, approximately 70% of the domains in the TLDs are active (the other 30% being dead). --Jmccormac 12:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

True enough. There are a lot of parking sites out there; however, I was moreso wondering about .eu websites which already have Wikipedia entries, not a complete catalogue of all .eu websites. You can't toss a category tag onto something which doesn't have a wikipedia article, right? :) samwaltz 12:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Force of habit - I think globally. :) I'm not sure that there are that many .eu sites in Wikipedia at the moment. Most of the new .eu sites I've seen are blog type sites or Joomla minisites (such as those in .info to monetise domains). I haven't seen any large pureplay .eu websites yet and for the UK and Ireland, it is very much a backwater domain. Many of the UK registered .eu domains have been registered by front companies operated by non-EU businesses, typically in the US and Canada. The .eu count for Ireland is around 30K but I've only detected about 6K on Irish hosters. Significantly, one major domain warehousing company has used an Irish front company to register .eu domains. It might end up being a very limited category. :) --Jmccormac 16:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion!?!?

How come ".eu" is classed as a ccTLD, yet ".asia" is classed as a gTLD?

It is considered a ccTLD by the IANA [1], while .asia is a gTLD [2]. Also EU is in ISO 3166-1 alpha-2. --193.77.238.223 15:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Asia is a continent, .EU is for the European Union, not for Europe as a continent.

The European Union is a group of countries though, not JUST one. So that argument is out the window. How about on the main template a section for regional TLDs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.200.87.22 (talk) 07:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

It's an interesting idea, although since their are only two of them I'm not sure its necessary. I just added the Generic Top-level Domain template to the page as well, since .eu is mentioned on it as well, along side .asia. Hopefully this will clear up some confusion...--RAult 08:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It is still a ccTLD but it has the characteristics of a gTLD. Adding a gTLD template adds to the confusion. If there was a regional TLD template (rTLD), then it might be ok but .eu is just a ccTLD.--Jmccormac 08:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It was a cock-up, not a conspiracy. At the time when first proposed, ICANN was resistant to creating any more gTLDs (then the orginal .com, .net, .org, .gov, .mil, .int) because it "might break the internet". The only way to break the deadlock was for the EU to have a ccTLD, despite the fact that it is not a country (or a federation or a confederation for that matter). With the addition of lots more gTLDs, is there any practical difference between a gTLD and a ccTLD any more (other than that ICANN doesn't control the ccTLDs)? --Red King (talk) 13:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] .eu Usage - Real Statistics

These are the preliminary results of an .eu mapping project last month I've been working on in the last month. Out of approximately 1.77M resolving domains (from 2.15M tracked) there are approximately 1.436M websites. The current stats for these websites are:

Webtype	Websites	Web %	Total %
A	373612	26.0223	21.0975
B	82188	5.7244	4.6411
D	46450	3.2353	2.6230
F	96342	6.7103	5.4403
H	310639	21.6362	17.5414
N	3088	0.2151	0.1744
P	106361	7.4081	6.0061
R	275886	19.2156	15.5790
S	8331	0.5803	0.4704
U	4565	0.3180	0.2578
W	126224	8.7916	7.1277
X	2053	0.1430	0.1159

A: Active/not yet classified.
B: Brand protection registration.
D: refresh in webpage.
F: Forbidden or other 4nn code.
H: Holding page with no content.
N: Duplicate content network of sites.
P: PPC parked.
R: Redirected (301/302 codes).
S: Site is for sale.
U: Site unavailable 127.0.0.1 is not a valid IP etc.
W: Domain aggregation network sites.
X: Porn sites.

I still haven't finished working on the stats. The Active websites figure is continually being downgraded as I clean the index. It would not be unthinkable to see a figure closer to 10% for the number of active .eu websites. The usage of .eu is a disaster. The domain industry regards it as a joke domain run by a bunch of jerks. It could have been a domain for Europe. Now it is just a domain that epitomises the incompetence, bureaucracy and waste. --Jmccormac 21:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

What's the equivalent info for .com? --Random832 (contribs) 02:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MERGE from .eu.int

Looks like somebody added a merge tag last October, but didn't follow through. The .eu.int article is tiny, about the size that would make a good 'historical context' for this one.

• Support --Red King (talk) 13:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

--Dynamicadam (talk) 19:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• Support --sebastianlewis (talk) 05:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't merge. The domains are different, the historical context does not make them one or identical. --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 19:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

• .eu.int is no longer used, .int is a separate TLD. --sebastianlewis (talk) 05:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Usage outside the EU

I know of at least one site that is outside the EU, but uses the .eu domain. It is a European site, but has nothing to do with Pan-Europeanism or anything, is quite local. --Mátyás (talk) 10:29, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] EU unfairly singling out Dotster

(Full disclosure: I'm a Doster employee) I'm concerned about the comment that there were long queues at Dotster. This seems to be unfairly singling out Dotster. Yes, there are sometimes delays. But can anyone prove that other registrars didn't long wait times too? DotsterCSR (talk) 02:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)